and what does that tell us about where president obama might ultimately end up? >> all of them have a huge amount of self k69s. they believe in their own gain. you also have to communicate well with the exception of true man, who wasn't that good with media, you know, theodore ro roosevelt was extremely good with cartoonists and novelists and poets. lincoln, writing such eloquent pieces as, you know, the gettysburg address, able to communicate the emotions of the time to the american people. washington was different because he was first: wae wa came in and didn't know what foreign policy he should be. should he be doing business with britain? he didn't know how to organize government. that's why washington usually follows lincoln as number two. >> now, even republicans give president obama credit for being a great communicator. >> yeah, and i particularly think that last -- the second inaugural barack obama is going to be quite famous. >> and also on the state of the union address. this last one was very well written. some day, somebody could do a book on the spe